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James Clark

LOL. I'm white, but I got:

"Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

Go figure. :P

Rethabile

I did this some time ago while reading Malcolm Gladwell's book, "Blink," which I highly recommend.

I'd like to do it again without the constraints that I had at that time. I'll post my results then.

Bryan Wilhite

Blacks get stupid when they mistake huge chunks of "high" culture for white values.

Whites get stupid just by being white. The next major revolution occurs when white people are truly and sincerely insulted when they are called "white".

Rethabile

BW: "Blacks get stupid when they mistake huge chunks of "high" culture for white values."
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RM: I'm stupid right there, because I don't understand. Please elaborate.

BW: "Whites get stupid just by being white. The next major revolution occurs when white people are truly and sincerely insulted when they are called 'white'."
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RM: I hope my post did not lead you to think I was saying whites are particularly stupid. They are as stupid as reds, or blacks.

If one day white people feel insulted when labeled white, then the revolution will have gone too far, don't you think? It will have come full circle, and by that time blacks will be in the process of quelling a revolution, perhaps by killing rebels and declaring that they slipped on a bar of soap.

A lot of work resides effectively with white people, but black people have a hyper-major part to play, too, and so far, they have played it out marvelously.

Due to that very fact, I think the revolution will be when blacks aren't offended when labelled Africans, nor whites when labelled Europeans.

White? Black? They're mere labels aren't they? Rather inaccurate ones, at that. Otherwise, what colour do we slap on a Cape coloured?

James Clark

I have a problem with being called "European".

Now I don't mind, "Of European decent...", but I don't like "European". I'm not European - I've never been to Europe. In fact, I've never set foot outside Africa!

I suspect some black people who have lived in Europe all their lives (and their family has lived there for four generations, as in my case...) probably feel similarly.

leonard

Interesting stuff - as always.
A while back I had a long harangue from a fellow ex-pat here: I used the expression 'african american' - and got soundly lectured as to her having greater 'rights' to the word 'african' than any of the 'blacks' in north america...her claimed background goes back to 1820...sigh.

Rethabile

James: I dig that, for you're not European. Labels have always foxed me. Does one say negroid, negro, coloured, afro-American, black, African-American, of African origin, or of African decent? Some black Americans aren't comfortable with some of these.

Leornard: Yes, one never knows. All this is complicated by the fact that in a biracial situation, the person is assigned the status of the "lowest" person in the mix. Black parent + white parent = black offspring. Never did understand that.

Rethabile

You have completed the Black-White IAT.

The line immediately below summarizes the results of your task performance.

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"Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American."
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Your result, reported above, is already corrected for the order in which you took the parts of the IAT. If you have a question about the effect of order, please read the answer to FAQ 1 on the page of FAQs for this test.

The interpretation shown above is described as 'automatic preference for Black' if you responded faster when Black faces and Good words were classified with the same key as opposed to White faces and Good words. It is marked 'automatic preference for White' if you were faster when giving the same response to White faces and Good words. Depending on the magnitude of your result, your automatic preference may be described as 'slight', 'moderate', 'strong', or 'little to no preference'.

Rethabile says: Will someone hand me the halo, please? I concur that it is hard not to associate black with negative words, and white with positive words. Any mistakes I made were in the direction of "black --> bad, negative, etc," which is a sorry state of affairs indeed.

leonard

Not as sorry as these here whitey synapses! My training under the full service apartheid package still occasionally surfaces with a virulence that makes me wonder if there isn't an argument to be made for genetically imprinted paranoia of 'the other'.

Bryan Wilhite

Rethabile: "If one day white people feel insulted when labeled white, then the revolution will have gone too far, don't you think?"

rasx(): No. Your question is based on the assumption that you know how far is "too far." I do not have confidence in the instruments you use for measuring distance. Do not be insulted by this. Just understand that we do not share the same confidence. This is yet another aspect of cultural diversity.

NEXT TOPIC: Earlier I said, 'Blacks get stupid when they mistake huge chunks of "high" culture for white values.' You asked for elaboration. The best example I like to give is the old Black radical rant against "white music": just because "do re mi fa so la ti do" is from some kind of Renaissance Italian the Black radical dismisses this as white music. This makes the Black radical stupid. The Black radical failed to listen to flute that was pulled from the Egyptian tomb---he has lost more of himself and the Indo-European egyptologists smile with masonic glee.

Rethabile

"I do not have confidence in the instruments you use for measuring distance."
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Ha..., I understand you. I'm wary of them, too. But I think we need to drag them (the instruments) as close to the midline as possible, then use them.


"...we do not share the same confidence."
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Because our experience of life is different?

Rethabile

BW: "The Black radical failed to listen to flute that was pulled from the Egyptian tomb."
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Thanks for the vivid example. I now understand what you meant. I agree that all stupid people commit the same error.

If job interviews were to take place behind a curtain, black people and other minorities would start appearing, as by mystery, in the nation's higher managerial echelons. Of this I'm convinced

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